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Diversity Rules are Fake

By Phaldun
7/10/2025 6:47 pm
When I joined the league years ago, Grandpa was my mentor and yes he helped me in so many ways understand MFN and how it can work. I guarantee that his advice helped me win several league trophies. He even started the Elite League where we all need to follow a set amount of play diversity rules to try and counter some of the flaws in the MFN code thus trying to create a more realistic feel to this simulation. Well, stupid me, I ate it all up and went all in. Here is the kicker tho, time and time again when it comes to important games and playoffs, I mean even Grandpa tuns fake as **** and does not follow his own damned rules. So I just wanted to say that I am tired of being duped into these, so called league rules, only to get burned time and time again in the playoffs and the Superbowl. Even Grandpa doesn't follow his own damned created rules when it comes to the playoffs so don't listen to a word he says. Don't fall for play diversity rules leagues.........cause Grandpa and his lackeys will just flip it on you in the playoffs.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By raidergreg69
7/10/2025 7:01 pm
Sorry that happened to you, but you are not the first person to voice this complaint. There are some leagues with no rules and while my USFL is currently full, you're more than welcome to join the XFL. If you do, there will be several others that can share some stories about ole gramps.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By IoanBlood
7/11/2025 2:02 am
My 2 cents:

I give a **** sh.. on winning a league right now. If I join a league with certain rules I will follow them until the end of the season, no change in possible play offs only to win.
Even in no rules leagues I play very conventional and experiment with certain things otherwise this game will be boring and stupid to follow the main stream.
I still hope that JDB manages to fix the game play to make the (artificial) league rules obsolete and give every GM the opportunity to find the best game plan depending on his HC and Roster with a great variety of different playable games including Long Passes.

Phaldun, I appreciate your effort with our league and I'm also disappointed about some people who want to win under all cicumstances and therefore sh...... on all the rules given or even promoted by themselves.

Keep on going, I'll support every effort to make this game playable for every one.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By setherick
7/12/2025 6:58 am
Ha! JDB has shown no interest in solving the root issues with the game engine in years which has led to the need for league rules (which are enforced to various degrees). The reason there are no long passes is because a combination of issues.

QBs have pinpoint accuracy on all passes as long as they have over 50 functional accuracy. Receivers have an inherent catch skill of 60% catching on any pass. So if a QB could wait for the WR to get free - because OL used to be able to block without any skill, long passes were automatic.

But instead of fixing the problem we have gotten a series of bandaid fixes which have made the game engine tricky to game plan with and reduced the overall number of effective plays.

1. QBs are now wildly inaccurate below a functional pass of 50. A QB with 51 functional accuracy will complete like 60% of their passes, a QB with 49 will complete fewer than 10 passes all season.

2. Receivers drop most passes that are thrown more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage when a QB throws them.

3. QBs abandon their first and second reads and check down on most medium passes before the play develops, which is good...

4. ... because the offensive line stops blocking on medium and long passes but not short ones. There are almost 0 sacks on short passes but more then 20% of the time on medium passes where the QB checks down immediately most of the time and virtually every time the QB waits for the medium routes to come open.

5. On long passes the offensive line doesn't block at all.

6. And the most broken aspect of 4.6, DEs accelerate faster than WRs do because B&R skills are stronger than B&R avoid.

All of these issues were pointed out before 4.4, 4.5 and 4.6 were released.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By Mcbolt55
7/12/2025 7:37 am
All good points about the broken aspects the game, but it has nothing to do with individual leagues setting certain roster or gameplan rules and then repeatedly breaking them.

As someone who tried to enforce certain weight restrictions in the past, it’s obvious the no restrictions leagues are just more successful and happier places to play because further handicapping a barely functional strategy sim is just not fun.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By Waitwut
7/12/2025 8:31 am
Soup from a stone, fancy that.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By raidergreg69
7/12/2025 2:46 pm
I would love to have custom rules that I could enforce with appropriate sanctions. Unfortunately, all I can do to punish a rulebreaker is to kick them out of the league.

If I make a rule forbidding the max contract loophole and someone breaks that rule, I would like to be able to remove that player from the offending roster.

Someone repeatedly plays an underweight player? I'd love to take a 7th round pick or do something similar but I can't.

I have found it easier on my mental health to basically have no rules. It's not ideal but that's how it is.

Re: Diversity Rules are Fake

By setherick
7/13/2025 6:47 am
Mcbolt55 wrote:
All good points about the broken aspects the game, but it has nothing to do with individual leagues setting certain roster or gameplan rules and then repeatedly breaking them.

As someone who tried to enforce certain weight restrictions in the past, it’s obvious the no restrictions leagues are just more successful and happier places to play because further handicapping a barely functional strategy sim is just not fun.


Sure they were. If the root issues of the game were solved, and player generation was solved, we would not need to just reduce players to the lightest weight players at all positions because speed matters more than anything else. But agreed the game is going to shut down from lack of interest before any of the real problems are resolved.