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Re: Smirt's shack

By Bruno77
9/15/2022 8:13 am
Smirt211 wrote:
I'll make the point a quick concise one:

There's a huge difference between a 10/10 difficulty Mitch coming at you on equal footing, wanting your spot in a legitimate way and a bad person (Bryson) giving you no chance because he knows game mechanics that no one else did at the time. Maybe JDB tipped him off, maybe he figured it out himself (I doubt it) but the guy came into Title Games with an ugly mentality of taking the title from anyone and everyone where their strategies or hard work didn't matter. Nothing they did mattered. He had gamed the code.




To this point, I was watching my game in TPM during the tail end of the first half of a grad school class last night. A friend of mine asked me about it, and I told him about it and how I could use concepts from our degree in the game (masters in statistics pretty much).

I am currently working on recreating TC in Python for the **** of it and out of curiosity for whether undrafted/unsigned rookies were affected by TC, I stumbled upon a thread where JDB described how booms and busts are distributed.

I told my friend about this and how I could Monte Carlo simulate booms and busts bare minimum (not the actual attribute changes...yet) and he asked me why the game developer would reveal something like this.

Which brings me to the point of this post, which is that JDB leaves a decent amount of pointers to people scattered around on public forums. Anyone can succeed at the game if they either copy successful GMs or search around for JDB nuggets on the site. So anyone can be "fed" this info and it's not cheating since everyone has access to it!

It's more about what you do with the info that leads to success.
Last edited at 9/15/2022 8:14 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 8:22 am
Yes, but...

there's succeeding and then there's being able to rack off 10-12 straight titles in a row surviving me, GDB and CJ whom would get angrier at each successful title win + the Challenger advantage, which I faced a lot in e-wresting way back in the day.

The challenger coming in (especially highly competitive ones) you're going to bring a deeper, higher intensity level - very difficult to match for the Champion - to be able to maintain the same effort level and determination to fend off the challenger

For me, I'll reach a point we're I'm like 'he's done' and with Bryson that was the MFN-74 Title Game I posted. Check my players stats for that season and I lost. Trust me, I funneled all my energy of anger at him like a Death Star with a 109 TD QB and 12k passing yards and even that didn't do it.

Addendum: ...and my point is nothing was published or out there about what 100 strength linemen could do, therefore, why would he even go about it or know how to harness/weaponize it? He being Bryson.
Last edited at 9/15/2022 8:25 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 8:29 am
The ugly mindset, too.

"I'm not going to play the game. I'm just going to nerf my opposing GM with infinite -10 yard holding penalty calls."

No strategy involved. Just mean, despicable behavior.

Re: Smirt's shack

By Bruno77
9/15/2022 8:33 am
Smirt211 wrote:
My thought process is the following:

JDB supplied him with the seed idea that he could control the game at the line. No one else knew it - HUGE advantage. Bryson then laser beamed his efforts toward 100 strength linemen on both sides of the ball and POUNDED the concept like I would and others have now, too, pound FB Dive. The problem is only he knew and he had the pinpointed target of going viciously at attaining the goal of 100 strength linemen and penalty accumulations while the rest of us were LA LA LA fighting hard as **** with every strategy imaginable to no hope or chance.


But we don't have proof of this, this being JDB supplying him a seed of an idea about 100 strength OL. It's also possible that Bryson could've tested a concept and made it better on his own and/or run analytics. We also don't know or have proof of this either. Definitely sounds frustrating though but we can't confirm a hypothesis without testing it.

If you have that I'm all ears.
Last edited at 9/15/2022 8:36 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 8:36 am
Maybe, but regardless everyone but him was in the dark and he basically said f*** all your game plans and f*** all your work through every stage of the game through every season...

I'm going to 100 strength you to -10 holding penalties, interference calls and any other call..

I mean that's crazy to do that to everyone.

(if true...)
Last edited at 9/15/2022 8:38 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Bruno77
9/15/2022 8:39 am
Smirt211 wrote:
Maybe, but regardless everyone but him was in the dark and he basically said f*** all your game plans and f*** all your work through every stage of the game through every season...

I'm going to 100 strength you to -10 holding penalties, interference calls and any other call..

I mean that's crazy to do that to everyone.


That could also just be some crazy RNG too. It seems like he had to also have been extremely lucky too, since luck seems to be a factor in this game too. I'm curious what his teams averaged penalty wise vs opponent each season.

Re: Smirt's shack

By Bruno77
9/15/2022 8:40 am
Also how strong was that league back in the day? MFN-# seem like dogshit these days competition wise I'm just wondering if that used to be the case.
Last edited at 9/15/2022 8:40 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 8:40 am
I think he steamrolled over luck with it.

I'm a honest person. He'll never tell us, therefore, we'll never know. I'll drop it there.

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 8:42 am
Bruno77 wrote:
Also how strong was that league back in the day? MFN-# seem like dogshit these days competition wise I'm just wondering if that used to be the case.


MFN competition was much stronger back then. He never should have been able to accomplish it. 0% chance.

74 - me in the last few years of his run - VCR - Warrior
75 - loaded/stacked with elite GMs
Last edited at 9/15/2022 8:49 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 8:53 am
All-Time League Record: 242-5 (0.980)

LOL

Does that sound in the realm of realism or a cheater?