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Re: Smirt's shack

By Blondie1977
9/15/2022 3:19 pm
Bruno77 wrote:
Blondie1977 wrote:
Bruno77 wrote:
Smirt211 wrote:
My issue with AG is that I didn't buy the back to back Title Game results of losing about 40-3, 40-8 in each one. I don't think any one could do that against me. 2 engine nerfs, maybe. My Big Data team was aged - ok, I can buy but that one but as we found out I'm a 'man of 2s..' The 2nd one hit and immediately I said to myself 'I don't buy this' and I fired myself up.

Just like I fired myself about the Flat Zone, knowing I'll see it over and over, therefore, I need to counter it by enraging myself Tyson style to decipher it and handle it.

The copying is a very real thing with the Discord crew. They did it with first generation Flat Zone.

I just had a Title Game in MFN-2: -128% 1 play Flat Zone defense vs. Da Balla.. I handled it.

Now next generation copy is the AG defense. If I were him, I'd be mad. Taking my work and utilizing it as your own to ascend to the pinnacle of the game.

https://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/log/14984


At the end of the day, we all have access to the same data, the same patterns of gameplay from the same GMs. Some things work, some things don't! I don't think people care about originality (though I have a league where I test my own concepts) as much as what works for their team!


I used to care more about it when we had an engine that allowed for it. But now everyone pretty much runs the exact same plays on offense. A bit boring unfortunately.


I feel like it's mostly because there are very few that are consistently good. Hopefully the next patch resolves it.


That’s exactly right. All by design from JDB. 4.6 was designed to nerf a few offensive plays. Unfortunately it ended up nerfing 70% of the playbook.

Re: Smirt's shack

By Bruno77
9/15/2022 3:21 pm
Blondie1977 wrote:
Bruno77 wrote:
Blondie1977 wrote:
Bruno77 wrote:
Smirt211 wrote:
My issue with AG is that I didn't buy the back to back Title Game results of losing about 40-3, 40-8 in each one. I don't think any one could do that against me. 2 engine nerfs, maybe. My Big Data team was aged - ok, I can buy but that one but as we found out I'm a 'man of 2s..' The 2nd one hit and immediately I said to myself 'I don't buy this' and I fired myself up.

Just like I fired myself about the Flat Zone, knowing I'll see it over and over, therefore, I need to counter it by enraging myself Tyson style to decipher it and handle it.

The copying is a very real thing with the Discord crew. They did it with first generation Flat Zone.

I just had a Title Game in MFN-2: -128% 1 play Flat Zone defense vs. Da Balla.. I handled it.

Now next generation copy is the AG defense. If I were him, I'd be mad. Taking my work and utilizing it as your own to ascend to the pinnacle of the game.

https://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/log/14984


At the end of the day, we all have access to the same data, the same patterns of gameplay from the same GMs. Some things work, some things don't! I don't think people care about originality (though I have a league where I test my own concepts) as much as what works for their team!


I used to care more about it when we had an engine that allowed for it. But now everyone pretty much runs the exact same plays on offense. A bit boring unfortunately.


I feel like it's mostly because there are very few that are consistently good. Hopefully the next patch resolves it.


That’s exactly right. All by design from JDB. 4.6 was designed to nerf a few offensive plays. Unfortunately it ended up nerfing 70% of the playbook.


I genuinely think he's trying to resolve it in a future update. What JDB sent to JB:

I'm working hard on the UI update and probably won't make any changes to the game engine until that's done. It's been a much larger project than I initially intended but I'm finally starting to get close to the home stretch.

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/15/2022 3:23 pm
This thread is literally the only activity on MFN today. Us talking. It's sad what has happened to MFN.

I'll write a note down when I see something. I'll see a flash of PA Streaks working in like a 2-day window when I'm scouting but then it closes. Every now and then I see the 3-1-1 BOMB work but I tried it and abandoned ship quickly in the usfl when it failed on me.

I'm risk adverse. I bet you can hit long streaks, however, it's not worth the 7 sacks to 1 success rate it'd take to nail it. 1 of 7....1 of 10....

You'll take L after L to connect on a beautiful side-line streak 80+ yards, once a game.


Re: Smirt's shack

By Blondie1977
9/15/2022 3:29 pm
Bruno77 wrote:
Blondie1977 wrote:
Bruno77 wrote:
Blondie1977 wrote:
Bruno77 wrote:
Smirt211 wrote:
My issue with AG is that I didn't buy the back to back Title Game results of losing about 40-3, 40-8 in each one. I don't think any one could do that against me. 2 engine nerfs, maybe. My Big Data team was aged - ok, I can buy but that one but as we found out I'm a 'man of 2s..' The 2nd one hit and immediately I said to myself 'I don't buy this' and I fired myself up.

Just like I fired myself about the Flat Zone, knowing I'll see it over and over, therefore, I need to counter it by enraging myself Tyson style to decipher it and handle it.

The copying is a very real thing with the Discord crew. They did it with first generation Flat Zone.

I just had a Title Game in MFN-2: -128% 1 play Flat Zone defense vs. Da Balla.. I handled it.

Now next generation copy is the AG defense. If I were him, I'd be mad. Taking my work and utilizing it as your own to ascend to the pinnacle of the game.

https://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/log/14984


At the end of the day, we all have access to the same data, the same patterns of gameplay from the same GMs. Some things work, some things don't! I don't think people care about originality (though I have a league where I test my own concepts) as much as what works for their team!


I used to care more about it when we had an engine that allowed for it. But now everyone pretty much runs the exact same plays on offense. A bit boring unfortunately.


I feel like it's mostly because there are very few that are consistently good. Hopefully the next patch resolves it.


That’s exactly right. All by design from JDB. 4.6 was designed to nerf a few offensive plays. Unfortunately it ended up nerfing 70% of the playbook.


I genuinely think he's trying to resolve it in a future update. What JDB sent to JB:

I'm working hard on the UI update and probably won't make any changes to the game engine until that's done. It's been a much larger project than I initially intended but I'm finally starting to get close to the home stretch.


That’s great to hear! Best news on MFN in months.

Agreed Smirt. It’s very sad.

Re: Smirt's shack

By trslick
9/15/2022 8:29 pm
I found MFN 6 years ago , had to ask my wife and doctor, in that order, if it would be ok
to play as my health is very bad. With help from my grandkids on how to work a pc, I was told
only a few hours a day, off I went playing a game that was a big part of my life. After a few seasons, I was in love and without MFN, I would have stayed in bed and died! I have played everyone, I have won a game over everyone at least once and to some lost most of the time! I
have 20 to 30 LC's, 6 in this 4.6 and play the same way as when I started, could I win more if I
put more work in, yes! Thats not why I'm here, its a little more than a game for me! I like every
GM here,even the one that booted me for sticking up for other GM's once! I thank all of you
guys that run these leagues because we need them, I need them! See you all on the field and
lets keep MFN going! Thanks and carry on with Smirt's shack, be nice!
Last edited at 9/16/2022 8:53 am

Re: Smirt's shack

By Bruno77
9/15/2022 8:32 pm
trslick wrote:
I found MFN 6 years ago today, had to ask my wife and doctor, in that order, if it would be ok
to play as my health is very bad. With help from my grandkids on how to work a pc, I was told
only a few hours a day, off I went playing a game that was a big part of my life. After a few seasons, I was in love and without MFN, I would have stayed in bed and died! I have played everyone, I have won a game over everyone at least once and to some lost most of the time! I
have 20 to 30 LC's, 6 in this 4.6 and play the same way as when I started, could I win more if I
put more work in, yes! Thats not why I'm here, its a little more than a game for me! I like every
GM here,even the one that booted me for sticking up for other GM's once! I thank all of you
guys that run these leagues because we need them, I need them! See you all on the field and
lets keep MFN going! Thanks and carry on with Smirt's shack, be nice!


Always love your positivity + class slick!

Re: Smirt's shack

By raidergreg69
9/15/2022 8:46 pm
Slick is awesome and I was in complete shock when he was booted. I don't care to rehash the details but how could anyone be mad at Slick? Seriously. Always says GG and never says anything negative about people.

Re: Smirt's shack

By Cjfred68 - League Admin
9/16/2022 9:41 am
I love that guy!!!

Trslick is pure class!

Yeah, the idiot who booted Trslick was a league admin who tried to run a league with a ton of rules but never even attempted to enforce them. When it was brought to his attention, he said he didn't have the time to police everyone.

That's fine, I get it! Being an active league admin isn't for everyone but you can't make rules before an allocation draft...let everyone draft accordingly....then allow owners to do whatever they want!

There are various ways to be an admin, Raidergreg is more democratic, using polls and asking for input while I'm more of a dictator but being a Laissez-faire admin leads to this:



Don't worry Trslick....as long as I'm alive and JDB doesn't pull the plug....you will always have a place to play MFN!!

Re: Smirt's shack

By Smirt211
9/16/2022 9:51 am
That League Admin was literally the Village Idiot, right? (Villager Chris)

I immediately dubbed him that in my mind and I may have hit a board or two with it once his mouth opened at me with my having done nothing to him prior.

Yeah, slick is the classiest GM on MFN and it's not even close.

Re: Smirt's shack

By trslick
9/16/2022 11:07 am
That is good news Cj, hope to stick around awhile to enjoy it! I will be going in for more testing
around Thursday, will be gone till Monday unless they keep me to pick on me some more! So
no one take my teams and thanks Smirt for the use of your shack!