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Re: New rule for next season

By VillagerChris
10/14/2021 12:33 pm
Smirt211 wrote:
I just scouted a game where Ioanblood mimic'd my entire Victory defensive play usage.

Right down the line. 1 by 1.



But everyone does this, you look at what winning players are doing, try and understand why it works and then copy that strategy and overtime, you make changes to it as you see fit. This is the nature of becoming successful at pretty much anything.

Re: New rule for next season

By Smirt211
10/14/2021 12:44 pm
I don't exploit anything. Through hard work I perfected the punt block and honed it to be as dangerous as possible. I perfected product placement of the FL Hitch to inflict the most damage on an opponent. I never break down film on a mechanics level to exploit a play and I've never used that 46 Heavy Blitz advantage. I go with what plays work and sharpen to as taut as possible.

I'd be willing to wager something far more destructive than what I do is there's an open dialogue between JDB and Ray and a couple others with intimate knowledge of Beta that none of us are privy to.


Re: New rule for next season

By raidergreg69
10/14/2021 12:50 pm
Smirt211 wrote:
Yeah, I can get confirmations on what I said about him being on the league chat for days during a dispersal draft which included all the elite GMs.

He never said a word in it, either.


I remember seeing JDB in the chat room, lurking

Re: New rule for next season

By Smirt211
10/14/2021 12:50 pm
If someone is going to sit on a league page and copy my work then Ima pound them into the ground when we play.

HHH admitted to it but I ended up respecting him.

Thank you, Greg!
Last edited at 10/14/2021 12:50 pm

Re: New rule for next season

By Cjfred68 - League Admin
10/14/2021 12:51 pm
Let's compare stats in the NFL, 4.5 & 4.6. I used the last full season in my XFL LEAGUE for 4.5 and the last full season of LEAGUE OF LEGENDS for 4.6

This is the facts about both versions...the data which should be used to determine if a new version is ready for release. Does it improve the game?

The answers are right there! It destroys the passing game so amps up the rushing game to counter that! Now instead of record breaking passing stats, we get record breaking rush stats.

Defensively, they have doubled to tripled sack numbers but didn't counter blitzing with more chunk yardage plays...if fact they shut those down which makes passing worse.

Every league had the option to use either the current version or ask to use Beta. 3 leagues chose to switch to beta plus there is the MFN-1...45 leagues continued to use version 4.5

I have absolutely no idea why a vocal few (remember 8 votes yes in a poll in MFN-1) leads to everybody being forced to switch unless we jump through hoops to remain 4.5

What was wrong with the way things were? You could switch if you wanted but 45 public leagues and who knows how many private leagues chose not to switch. JDB hasn't changes anything in Beta since December so now we are stuck with 4.6 as the standard.


PASSING

Number of QBs with 4,000 yards and number of QBs with 30 TD passes

NFL 12 & 10
4.5 (XFL) 11 & 9
4.6 (LOL) 0 & 0

WINNER 4.5

RECEIVING

Number of WRs with 100 receptions
Number of WRs with 1,000 yards receiving

NFL 8 & 18
4.5 (XFL) 1 & 14
4.6 (LOL) 1 & 0

WINNER 4.5

RUSHING

Number of 1,000 yard rushers

NFL 9
4.5 (XFL) 9
4.6 (LOL) 15

WINNER 4.5

DEFENSE

Number of players with 100 tackles
Number of players with 10 sacks
Number of players with 5 interceptions

NFL 42, 11, 6
4.5 (XFL) 16, 0, 10
4.6 (LOL) 24, 29, 5

WINNER 4.6

TOTAL OFFENSE PASSING

1st ranked passing team
16th ranked passing team
32nd ranked passing team

NFL 313, 258, 182
4.5 (XFL) 349, 227, 138
4.6 (LOL) 239, 162, 83

WINNER 4.5

TOTAL OFFENSE RUSHING

1st ranked rushing team
16th ranked rushing team
32nd ranked rushing team

NFL 192, 112, 84
4.5 (XFL) 147, 93, 49
4.6 (LOL) 225, 113, 46

WINNER 4.6

TOTAL OFFENSE

1st ranked offense
16th ranked offense
32nd ranked offense

NFL 416, 370, 280
4.5 (XFL) 497, 334, 195
4.6 (LOL) 417, 272, 197

WINNER push

TOTAL PASSING DEFENSE

1st ranked passing team
16th ranked passing team
32nd ranked passing team

NFL 191, 238, 294
4.5 (XFL) 191, 233, 292
4.6 (LOL) 122, 163, 200

WINNER 4.5

TOTAL RUSHING DEFENSE

1st ranked rushing defense
16th ranked rushing defense
32nd ranked rushing defense

NFL 80.6, 116, 160
4.5 (XFL) 37, 94, 160
4.6 (LOL) 79, 119, 224

WINNER 4.6

TOTAL DEFENSE

1st ranked defense
16th ranked defense
32nd ranked defense

NFL 282, 358, 419
4.5 (XFL) 239, 304, 407
4.6 (LOL) 194, 274, 385

WINNER 4.5

Re: New rule for next season

By VillagerChris
10/14/2021 12:56 pm
Smirt211 wrote:
I don't exploit anything. Through hard work I perfected the punt block and honed it to be as dangerous as possible. I perfected product placement of the FL Hitch to inflict the most damage on an opponent. I never break down film on a mechanics level to exploit a play and I've never used that 46 Heavy Blitz advantage. I go with what plays work and sharpen to as taut as possible.

I'd be willing to wager something far more destructive than what I do is there's an open dialogue between JDB and Ray and a couple others with intimate knowledge of Beta that none of us are privy to.




Well you can call it an exploit or simply taking advantage of a bad code, either way the average Joe isn't going to like getting multiple punts blocked in a game or seeing one passing play hit them 12 times a game for 350 yards and 5 TD's.. every game. I don't know how to have this conversation with you, you seem to not want to understand or recognize that people want to play a sim as close to real football as possible for the most part. They don't want to be constantly beaten by what they see as cheating or taking advatage of a code. I feel that the way you play the game, and others, have contributed over time to people either leaving the game, or championing the only present alternative, 4.6.

Re: New rule for next season

By raidergreg69
10/14/2021 12:58 pm
raidergreg69 wrote:
Smirt211 wrote:
Yeah, I can get confirmations on what I said about him being on the league chat for days during a dispersal draft which included all the elite GMs.

He never said a word in it, either.


I remember seeing JDB in the chat room, lurking


It was on more than one occasion, though I can't confirm what he was doing there. It's kind of hard to miss when the name JohnDavidBaker pops up in chat, since it's longer than a lot of usernames. I didn't think much of it at the time, other than to wonder why he was lurking. I figured he was just monitoring the chat, making sure we were playing nice.

Re: New rule for next season

By Smirt211
10/14/2021 12:58 pm
They do until they beat you and then they'll hit the board rubbing it in your face.

I'll continue to pick protecting myself.

Example: Villager Chris. I let go that post awhile back attacking my style of play but between now and then if you had beat me in the playoffs you'd be crowing and talking sh*t. Guaranteed.
Last edited at 10/14/2021 1:02 pm

Re: New rule for next season

By Smirt211
10/14/2021 1:00 pm
Pretty sure he and Seth were in deep convo on PM about game mechanics.

Re: New rule for next season

By Blondie1977
10/14/2021 1:06 pm
As the old saying goes, “It’s a copycat league.”